E Sex (Intercourse) in Islam A Very Detailed Thread 🧵
Summary
A detailed Islamic jurisprudence thread explaining rulings on sexual intimacy between spouses in modern contexts like sexting and video calls, drawing from classical Islamic legal schools (madhabs) to show that sexual communication and viewing between married couples is permissible, while self-masturbation is generally prohibited except in extreme circumstances.
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E Sex (Intercourse) in Islam A Very Detailed Thread 🧵
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In the Name of Allah, the Most Merciful, the Compassionate
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Table of Contents:
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Introduction: Some people asked me that I have made some threads but nothing about E-Sex, so i decided to make one about this to make some rulings clear
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I. The basic point is that marriage makes sexual enjoyment permissible: Al Kasani made the principle very clear: "Marriage permits looking and touching her from her head to her feet during her lifetime." The Hanbalis state the same basic principle
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II. The Malikis are especially useful here: "May a man speak to his wife while having intercourse with her?" Ibn Qasim replied: "Yes there is no harm in that." Qarafi said the same thing in dhakira the exact same material where he transmitted the same quote of Ibn Qasim.
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This matters for E-Sex because some people think sexual talk or even having a conversation during normal intercourse is also not permissible but thats just absurd A couple will get reward for even having sexual convo with each other.
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III. So sexting between husband and wife: Sexting is the electronic version of intimate speech and written sexual communication Of course there is no classical text about this but the maliki material which i quoted above shows one thing sexual speech is also permissible
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And Abu Hanifa said if a wife touches his husbands private part's and he touches her parts he said they are rewarded for doing that so even verbal speech counts and if they are arousing desire via speech then its also a good thing which can work with E-Sex.
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Ibn Hajar said: "The voice of a woman is not part of her awrah so listening to it is not forbidden unless there is a fear of fitnah and if one takes sexual pleasure from it." So the scholars are very clear about one thing that sexting is only permissible between a couple
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V. Showing private parts on a video call: Ibn Qudamah said: "Each spouse may look at the entirety of each other's body, including the private parts." Malikis are also very explicit: "There is no harm in looking at each other's private parts."
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And Malikis even cleared a weird belief about not looking at your wife's vagina because some people said if you look at her vagina then you might lose your sight.
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Ibn Hajar : "The reflected image of a stranger (woman) is treated seperately, so looking at it in something like a mirror is not itself forbidden." But one cannot use this to claim that its permissible to look at your girl friend via video call this is only allowed for a couple
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VI. Sending intimate pictures and videos (nudes) between spouses: The same principle applies here. A husband sending an intimate image to his wife and a wife sending one to her husband are not dealing with an ajnabiyya's body. What they are doing is from the permissible acts
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VII The important question: what about mastrubation? This is where the argument changes. The four madhabs do not simply say that because sexual pleasure is lawful in marriage, every possible method of producing sexual release becomes lawful.
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Imam Shaf'i said: "Sexual release through the male organ is not lawful except with one's wife or right-hand possession, and mastrubation is not lawful." Others said the same thing and there is ijma' on this.
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VIII. So the wife's hand is different from one's own hand: Ibn Abidin said: "It is permissible for him to have sexual release through the hand of his wife." Buhuti said the same thing and Dusuqi also said the same thing and said one can do it even with her thighs
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So mastrubating on your own is not permissible even if you are sexting only your wife can do that and you can do that for her
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IX. What if the couple are far apart and each person uses their own hand? This is the hardest part because classical scholars said this is not permissible. But in some extreme cases: "If overpowering desire overtakes and you mastrubate to end it then there is no blame."
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Ibn Qayyim also mentioned the same thing which i shared with you guys before aswell. Self-mastrubation is not permissible normally and some rulings are only exceptional but if one gets wet from just a convo then there is no blame on that person either.
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X. But what if they become aroused simply by talking?: That is very different from using one's own hand. Suppose a couple were having a sexual convo online and they reach orgasm without using their own hand's then there is nothing wrong with that.
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Ibn Aqil said: "If the person imagined his wife or slave-woman, there is no harm if she is absent from him, because the act itself is lawful, and he is not prohibited from imagining or picturing her." Same for women.
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XI. Listening to the wife's voice before mastrubation: This needs to be seperate into two different issues. First: Listenting to her voice is permissible. Second: Listening to her voice just to mastrubate will not be permissible.
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XII. The four madhabs therefore give us a very coherent framework The 4 madhabs allow sexual play even allow using marital aids aswell so this is not even some issue for the. So guys the point is not that mediveal scholars had some secret ruling for distance sex
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The point was just to make the general principle very clear. Pay close attention to them and learn them properly, because once you understand the general principles you can work through these new rulings without getting confused just because the situation is new.
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Permissibility Table: The privacy condition is important throughout this table. If some third party can see your stuff then its not permissible to do that.
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Conclusion: People who just keep saying one should avoid sexting or these type of things are mad they don't know anything and one should ignore them and should follow the clear principles instead.
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